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<text><![CDATA[Orange-innovation.tv in partnership with Gonzaï presents<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[MOquête, the modern inquest.<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[Music Business  (1.2) New industry, young cyborgs, Self-Music...Internet: You're the artist.. or kill the artist?<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[Among the star groups on the web,<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[is it really up to the public to do the sorting -<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[short-circuiting the record labels ?<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[We're going to meet myMIXby, which allows<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[groups who aren't yet signed to get their tracks professionally mixed.<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA['Les Shades' worked with them - we'll be going to see their leader.<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[But first of all, let's hear what Patrick Eudeline has to say.<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[He thinks the impasse on music professionals is piffle.<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[There's a need in the world of art for what we call filters.<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[Filters - I didn't specially want to defend<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[the record labels or the publishers.<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[Of course, there is a group of people there who have no taste,<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[anything we want to say about them can be justified,<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[they are human beings and there are a lot of bad ones in there.<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[But there is a need for what we call filters.<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[Whether these are critics,<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[whether it's the labels who choose<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[it doesn't exist,<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[it can't exist in the system<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[in which we live, quite simply -<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[otherwise there'd be 10 million groups.<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[Now, ok, everyone could make an album,<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[and with 1,000 euros worth of equipment<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[people think they can make music at home.<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[Personally, I don't believe in amateurism.<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[When we do things, we do them well, and we really put our hearts into it<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[and we take the life choices that go with it,<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[even if it's hard, but it's the price to be paid.<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[The last movement to take place<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[that's really of importance in this country<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[- which we call - rightly or wrongly - baby-rockers,<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[these are people who've played in clubs and all that,<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[who existed, who did what 'traditional' rock groups did.<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[I think that without the internet<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[the group I've got wouldn't be where it is now,<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[and Franck Redlich<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[who made myMIXby discovered us via the internet<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[and that's partly true of Bertrand Burgalat as well.<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[I recently produced an album for a group<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[of youngsters called Les Shades, for example,<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[it was great fun - for them and for me.<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[It's a veritable exchange, it's not me giving them something,<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[I don't give them anything at all<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[but they, in exchange they give something back.<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[That's what music is, it's a veritable exchange.<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[The principle of power sends these pieces<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[and gets them remastered or mixed by professionals<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[without going through the record label, and all that.<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[I think it's practically a revolution,<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[it really does change everything,<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[it's making music better.<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[I realised that through the internet<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[there really was a huge creativity<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[of vast numbers of artists<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[who are now arriving<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[with new tools,<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[to begin to express what they want to do.<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[This is one of the very negative sides of the internet,<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[- the fact of being able to say to yourself that<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[because we have 4 or 5 photos of the group<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[and a demo,<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[- even if the demo's a bit crap<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[and to be able to say - right, we'll be able to publicize our concerts<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[and we'll present ourselves as<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[a new sensation<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[and that, I think it's totally arrogant<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[that people had between them, between mates<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[by saying 'yeah, our group's great...'<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[now it's been exposed in a way that's almost perverse,<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[and that gives certain groups a bad image.<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[It seems as though on the internet there are thousands, millions of people shouting like that:<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA['Listen to me! It's me ! I exist ! I exist !'<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[And practically everyone is doing that, but there's nobody there to hear it,<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[nobody's there to hear it, nobody's there to buy stuff.<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[So, it can't go on. And for me, the internet bubble<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[-when it burst in 2000 for other reasons<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[the web 2 bubble,<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[all this stuff, is going to change.<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[How Sylvain, instead of soaking his feet in the basin,<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[you are going to shift your ass and make me a little piece right away, right now<br />]]></text>
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<text><![CDATA[because I've had my fill, you do nothing, you never do anything<br />]]></text>
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